Hello, my dear readers! Today, I’d like to do the first installment of something that may or may not be a regular feature on here, depending on how much the opinions of myself anger the internet! Yes, it’s time for….
Nasty E-Mails and Comments!
Rarely do I use profanities in my debates. I’m a firm believer that debate should be utilized as a learning tool, not one to disparage someone personally. However, I received a lovely comment on my blog here from someone who apparently wasn’t content with one of my opinions. That’s completely fine, people will always have conflicting viewpoints and one of the nice things about debate is that you can go back and forth in a respectful way about your opinions. However, when people try to personally insult you as part of their argument, it shows an utter lack of backing to their opinions, and merely reveals that you struck a nerve in them, got them angry, and they can’t defend themselves rationally so they resort to insults. This comment was one such example!
Let the “Eye for an Eye” begin!
“It is interesting how you spend a lot of your time trying to degrade others who have gone into their respective professions (chiropractic, osteopathy, naturopathy etc..) with the expressed intention of helping others, usually because they themselves were helped when allopathic medicine failed to do so. “
Quibble the 1st: My intentions are not to degrade others. My intentions are to provide discourse and information on healthcare practices that are bogus, quackery, and all out devoid of good science in an effort to perhaps strike a chord in those who would otherwise ignore or be oblivious to these goings-on. The 3 professions you have listed are filled with pseudoscience and only serve as a detriment to the public’s understanding of health and biological sciences. I deride these professions not because I have a vendetta, but because I care about patients everywhere and how they are choosing to spend their money or time in the interest of their own health. When these professions decide to cast off their roots of vitalistic nonsense and start to produce real, measurable scientific results, I will be the first to welcome them with open arms into the fold of healing. Until then, no.
Quibble the 2nd: There’s no such thing as “allopathic” medicine. There’s medicine which works and has been proven by science to do so, and there’s everything else. Allopathy was a derogative term for “mainstream” physicians coined by Samuel Hahnemann, the gentleman who invented Homeopathy, a system which disregards basic fundamental sciences on such a huge level, that it is perhaps the worst offender of them all.
I would hope you went into medicine to do the same, and not just for the money. You seem like a little man.
And here we have a lovely ad-hominem attack against me! Bravo! Good to see you can defend your opinions without resorting to insults. Er…wait…
If you’d spend any time reading my website, you’d no doubt see the scads of posts I have made bemoaning the current medical environment in the United States, and how I am disgusted by my colleagues who are motivated only by money. But then again, that wouldn’t make for a good insult now, would it?
I was drawn to your website because of your reply to an article I read about Sidney Crosby. You state how good the article is, and then in the next line show your ignorance by questioning how it is that chiropractors get “specialties”. Quite bold of you to have such strong opinions without any facts.
Hooray for more reading comprehension! This was inspired by my posting on http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/chiropractic-neurology/ concerning the topic of Chiropractic Neurology, a “specialty” claimed by many Chiropractors across the US. My words on this site were expressed not as a request for this knowledge, but at the sheer-dumbfoundedness I felt in seeing that these unscrupulous individuals claiming to be competent Neurologists after taking 300 HOURS ONLY OF THE TOPIC, WHICH CAN BE DONE ALL ONLINE. By that logic, one elective rotation should fully qualify me in a medical specialty, residency be damned.
Chiropractors do take post graduate courses to get these specialty designations, and you cannot use it in advertising or in any way unless you have earned the designation from one of the accredited colleges. It is regulated, but of course, like in medicine or any other profession, there will be crooks who try to get away with using them without the valid credentials. It takes a couple of years of course work and it does not imply a ‘medical’ specialty, it is a chiropractic specialty.
Years of coursework? Try again: http://www.chirocredit.com/pages/chiro_neurology.php 300 hours is the minimum requirement to sit for their Board exams. That to me, is laughable. An understanding of Neurology as a specialty takes years, and isn’t something one can do sitting at home in the La-Z-Boy on the laptop or attending Hotel Room Conferences on Sundays.
‘Medicine’ is only one type of healthcare, as is dentistry, optometry etc… Chiropractors do not pretend to be medical doctors, although some lean that way in practice more than others.
Perhaps in legal terms, but from a science perspective, the realms of Dentistry and Optometry are considering in the realm of Medicine. They utilize good, solid science in their practices. Chiropractors do not.
…and many Chiropractors DO pretend to be Medical Doctors. They are trying in many states to get access as Primary Care Providers, a role which they are woefully inadequate in training to perform in. For a good analysis, see: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-dc-as-pcp/
You and your small minded peers seem to think that chiropractic only involves clicking bones, but the profession is much more diverse than that. Chiropractic Neurology encompasses all non-surgical treatment of neurological conditions, in other words, whatever works, whether it be allopathic or chiropractic, and it attempts to fuse these approaches and apply them appropriately, and with evidence to support it.
Another lovely ad-hominem. Thanks! Really shows your ability to debate rationally and intelligently.
The sad thing about Chiropractic Neurology is that not a single one of its practitioners has yet to actually demonstrate in a scientific fashion that what they do *works*. They rely mostly on patient anecdotes and stories, as well as simple case reports. The lack of research astounds me.
Funny, in the next part you bring up the “Doctor” treating Sidney Crosby as your example. Here’s a quote from him concerning scientific studies of his “treatments”
“We don’t have enough time to publish studies.” (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1190863/2/index.htm)
So what, lets just do a bunch of stuff that has no basis in the lab and hope it works? If I practiced Medicine that way, I wouldn’t get very far. Nor should I. That’s the kind of attitude that harms people.
The reality is, Sidney Crosby is back on the ice (and looking to move to the KHL since the NHL is in shambles), yet I do not hear any of you eating your words about the apparently successful treatment he received. Your apparent quiet is even more disturbing in light of the fact that the nerologists he did see could not, or would not help him.
We aren’t eating our words because this is one anecdote. We have no idea of knowing what got Mr. Crosby back and playing again. Without further studies, we can’t simply conclude that “Hey, this treatment works. Let’s keep doing this.” The Chiros that champion Mr. Crosby’s case are doing themselves such a disservice by not utilizing even the slightest in critical thinking skills. Again, if I practiced Medicine like this, I’d be in deep, deep trouble. You can’t just treat things with methods you make up, without even knowing if their underlying function has a basis in science. That’s just plain wrong.
BTW, isn’t the Antigua medical program a little bit of a joke? Isn’t that where students go that can’t get into medical school in the US? Stones and Glass houses…
Another lovely ad-hominem! Keep ‘em coming!
Since you don’t know me personally, I’ll let you in on a little secret: I never applied to a United States Medical School. I didn’t want to. I went to Antigua for the express purpose of working in an impoverished country where I could simultaneously learn Medical Science as well as provide outreach to the destitute there who cannot afford to see a doctor. And not that it really matters, but the University I attend is fully accredited in not only the United States, by also by the World Health Organization. I have completed my classroom studies and am slated to be working in a hospital in my home state soon, which I could not have accomplished if my program was in any-way “a joke”.
It might not be Harvard Med, but at least we aren’t being taught nonsensical fairy tales about how the human body works.
And that, my dear friends, brings us to a close! If you’d like to debate or discuss, I’m always happy to! I will respect your opinions fully as long as you respect mine. But show up with idiotic drivel like the above, and I will deconstruct it for the public to see.
Hope you enjoyed